{"id":117,"date":"2026-02-16T21:40:07","date_gmt":"2026-02-16T21:40:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/teams.issibern.ch\/nuclearspintemperatures\/?page_id=117"},"modified":"2026-02-16T21:47:34","modified_gmt":"2026-02-16T21:47:34","slug":"first-meeting","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/teams.issibern.ch\/nuclearspintemperatures\/meetings\/first-meeting\/","title":{"rendered":"First Meeting"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2 style=\"text-align: center\"><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color: #0000ff\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><strong>First ISSI Teams Meeting:<\/strong><\/span><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">\u00a0<strong>February 9 &#8211; 13, 2026, Bern, Swiss<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/h2>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: left\"><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color: #993300\"><b>Motivations<\/b><\/span><\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size: 12pt\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The aim of this ISSI International Teams is to brings together observers, modellers, and laboratory\/theory experts to reassess what nuclear-spin isomer ratios \u2014 most prominently ortho-to-para ratios (OPRs) \u2014 actually tell us in astronomical environments. The central motivation is that OPRs have long been treated as \u201ccosmogonic thermometers\u201d (i.e., formation-temperature tracers), especially in comets, but recent laboratory and theoretical work suggests spin-state populations may be altered by ice physics, phase transitions, chemistry, and radiative-transfer effects. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The group is composed of members of communities studying comets, the Interstellar medium (ISM, clouds diffuse to dense), star-forming regions, and protoplanetary discs (PPDs), with attention to different molecules including H<\/span><sub><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">2<\/span><\/sub><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">O, NH<\/span><sub><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">3<\/span><\/sub><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">, NH<sub>2<\/sub><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">, H<sub>2<\/sub><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">CO, CH<\/span><sub><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">4<\/span><\/sub><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">, C<sub>2<\/sub><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">H<\/span><sub><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">6<\/span><\/sub><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">, c-C<sub>3<\/sub><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">H<sub>2<\/sub><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">, and ions such as H<sub>2<\/sub><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">O<\/span><sup><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">+<\/span><\/sup><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">, H<sub>3<\/sub><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">O<sup>+<\/sup><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">, NH<sub>3<\/sub><sup>+<\/sup><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">, NH<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><sub>4<\/sub><sup>+<\/sup><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: left\"><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color: #993300\"><b>Key scientific themes and takeaways<\/b><\/span><\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size: 12pt\"><span style=\"color: #993300\"><b>Does OPRs measure formation temperature? <\/b><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">A repeated theme across talks and discussions is that the historical \u201cspin temperature\u201d interpretation \u2014 particularly the ~ 30 K narrative for cometary water \u2014 may be biased by how OPRs map onto theoretical curves that approach statistical equilibrium (SE) asymptotically. Many cometary measurements cluster near the SE value (H<\/span><sub><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">2<\/span><\/sub><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">O OPR \u2248 3), and small analysis\/modelling systematics can produce apparently meaningful \u201ctemperatures\u201d even when the underlying ratio is simply near its asymptote. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The group\u2019s emerging consensus is that <\/span><strong>OPR measurements may not preserve primitive formation conditions,<\/strong> but rather diagnose local processing<span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> (coma physics\/chemistry, opacity, phase-transition physics, and\/or state-dependent formation\/destruction chemistry). <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size: 12pt\"><span style=\"color: #993300\"><b>Nuclear spin conversion and phase transitions: <\/b><\/span>A major thread focused on when and how NSC occurs and whether OPRs can be constant over long timescales. Laboratory studies were discussed where isolated molecules prepared in a given spin state show conversion upon warming, and where desorption from ice can project populations toward the statistical 3:1 ratio. Open questions emphasised: (1) D<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">oes OPR have a robust meaning in amorphous vs. crystalline ice? (2) <\/span>Is OPR altered during long-term storage in ice, at sublimation, or in the coma after release? (3) How representative are laboratory conditions of cometary, ISM, PPD environments, and which physics is truly transferable?<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size: 12pt\"><span style=\"color: #993300\"><b>Gas-phase chemistry: \u201cformation mechanism drives OPR\u201d (Quack&#8217;s selection rules): <\/b><\/span>Another cornerstone is that <b>gas-phase reactive formation pathways<\/b> can imprint non-statistical OPRs under certain selection rules. The group discussed <strong>p<\/strong><b>roton-hop<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> vs <\/span><b>proton-scrambling<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> pathways producing different branching ratios, <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">the need to identify compelling observational evidence for non-statistical OPRs and to assess whether state-dependent destruction reactions can reshape observed ratios. The discussion also highlighted th<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size: 12pt\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">e coupling of OPR behaviour to the <\/span>OPR of H<sub>2<\/sub><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> in cold environments. <\/span>This theme became especially important for interpreting ISM and disk results (NH<span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><sub>3<\/sub><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">, H<sub>2<\/sub><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">O, H<sub>2<\/sub><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">CO), and it motivates ongoing laboratory work on state-dependent reactivity (e.g., ortho vs para water reactions).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><span style=\"color: #993300;font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size: 12pt\"><b>Comets: water and organics, large datasets, variability, and JWST-era complexity: <\/b><span style=\"color: #000000\">Several discussions stressed that <strong>continuum placement, temperature assumptions, and retrieval systematics can strongly affect derived OPRs,<\/strong> so the community needs clearer communication of limitations and uncertainty propagation. Now available large database can help to identify these biases. <\/span><strong><span style=\"color: #000000\">Opacity<\/span><\/strong><span style=\"color: #000000\"> emerged as an important problem: in active comets, fundamental bands can saturate, making \u201capparent OPR\u201d artificially low. Studies on NH<sub>2<\/sub> and H<sub>2<\/sub>O<sup>+<\/sup> suggest that the observed ratios are heavily influenced by dissociation\/ionisation pathways and molecular structure rather than just reflecting a single &#8220;spin temperature.&#8221;\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size: 12pt\"><span style=\"color: #993300\"><b>ISM and diffuse clouds: puzzling low OPRs and chemistry-driven explanations:\u00a0<\/b><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">From PRISMAS\/Herschel and related work, typical values\u00a0in the diffuse and translucent ISM\u00a0show water OPRs near statistical equilibrium, but the coldest and densest clouds show <\/span><b>lower OPRs<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">. Also in this case, <\/span><b>OPR may primarily probe chemistry and local conditions<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">, not formation temperature.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size: 12pt\"><span style=\"color: #993300\"><b>Photodissociation regions and protoplanetary discs: <\/b><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">For H<sub>2<\/sub>CO, early interpretations tied OPR to grain-surface formation vs gas formation, but newer understanding complicates this picture. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Chemical modelling suggests H<sub>2<\/sub>CO OPR can track <\/span><b>kinetic temperature and the OPR of H<sub>2<\/sub><\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">, with elemental abundances (C\/O ratio) and cosmic ray ionisation affecting abundances but less so the OPR itself.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif\"><strong><span style=\"color: #993300\">List of talks presented at the meeting:\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size: 12pt\"><strong>&#8220;Interpretations of spin ratios in comets&#8221;,<\/strong> by B. P. Bonev<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size: 12pt\"><strong>&#8220;Nuclear-Spin astrochemistry: from laboratory to observations (and vice-versa)&#8221;<\/strong>, by A. Faure<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size: 12pt\"><strong>&#8220;Water spin temperature in comets: <\/strong><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><strong>Cosmogonic indicator?&#8221;<\/strong>, by S. Faggi<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size: 12pt\"><strong>&#8220;Ortho-to-para ratio statistics in\u00a0CH<sub>3<\/sub>OH, C<sub>2<\/sub>H<sub>6<\/sub> and CH<sub>4<\/sub>&#8220;<\/strong>, by M. Lippi<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size: 12pt\"><strong>&#8220;Ortho-to-Para Ratios in Comets:\u00a0NH<sub>2<\/sub> and H<sub>2<\/sub>O<sup>+<\/sup>&#8220;<\/strong>, by H. Kawakita<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size: 12pt\"><strong>&#8220;H<sub>2<\/sub>CO OPRs in PDRs and PPD&#8221;<\/strong>, by V. Guzman<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size: 12pt\"><strong>&#8220;OPR in H<sub>2<\/sub>CO\u00a0ALMA observations of C\/2017 K2 (PanSTAARS)&#8221;<\/strong>, by D. Bockelee-Morvan\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size: 12pt\"><strong>&#8220;The ortho-para chemistry of H<sub>2<\/sub>CO in protoplanetary disks&#8221;,<\/strong> by M. Gaillard,\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size: 12pt\"><strong>&#8220;Water ortho-para ratio in the coma of 67P\/Churuymov-Gerasimenko&#8221;,<\/strong> by D. Bockelee-Morvan\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size: 12pt\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size: 12pt\">&#8220;<\/span>Testing the cosmogonic significance of spin temperatures across the solar system<\/strong><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size: 12pt\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><strong>&#8220;<\/strong>,<\/span><\/span> by G. L. Villanueva<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><span style=\"font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif\"><span style=\"color: #993300\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/teams.issibern.ch\/nuclearspintemperatures\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/149\/2026\/02\/agenda_v3.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Agenda*<\/a><\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><span style=\"font-size: 8pt\">* <em><span style=\"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif\">The agenda was adjusted day by day depending on the outcome of the discussions<\/span><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>First ISSI Teams Meeting:\u00a0February 9 &#8211; 13, 2026, Bern, Swiss Motivations The aim of this ISSI International Teams is to brings together observers, modellers, and laboratory\/theory experts to reassess what nuclear-spin isomer ratios \u2014 most prominently ortho-to-para ratios (OPRs) \u2014 actually tell us in astronomical environments. 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